his issue as governor of california which he was when willie was not yet bipartisan maybe. barely. >> whitman will continue to drive that issue as brown is someone that will raise taxes in california. the clinton personality stuff is getting a lot of attention. there's a real issue here. >> here's really interesting thing, if you want to really dig down in there. so bill clinton, when he brought this up in the '92 debate, that jerry brown raised taxes, he said, you don't have to listen to me, listen to cnn, right? listen to cnn. that gave him the credibility. as the "l.a. times" reported, the cnn story that bill clinton quoted in 1992 was wrong! so jerry brown didn't raise taxes the way cnn said in 1992, he raised tax, the way bill clinton said in 1992, that he raised tax, but here he is 18 years later, still sort of haunted by an inaccurate cnn report. but, again, as we all know, that just doesn't matter at this point. the facts don't matter at this point. >> think it's interesting he's apologizing. this is his quote. bill clinton was an excellent president. >> no, actuall